Shelley Lubben – Where is her credibility? What is she qualified to do?
Someone sent me one of Shelley’s latest blog posts, and upon reading it, as usual, so many questions came to mind, but the main question is ‘Is Shelley Lubben qualified to “educate” and “counsel” people?’ Shelley Lubben’s personal website states that she has a Bachelor’s Degree in Theology and Counseling. Now, this can be misleading, because you can obtain a Bachelor’s of Theology Degree with emphasis in Christian Counseling, but as stated by Escondido Bible College,
“The Bachelor of Theology Degree with emphasis in Christian Counseling is offered for the student pursuing ministry as a pastoral counselor in a local church or para-church setting. This program is not intended to lead to licensing in the secular counseling profession.”
The Pink Cross Foundation website states that,
“Shelley received her Bachelor’s of Theology degree at Vision International University in California on December 7, 2009 and is an ordained Chaplain with the Order of Saint Martin.”
When I look up Vision International University in California and go to their FAQ section under, “Can you guarantee that a school I would like to transfer to will accept by [sic] Vision credits/degree?” the answer is,
“All schools have their own policy regarding transfer of credit and the acceptance of degrees for higher-level education…”
… and then goes on to say that you have to contact that school directly and ask them. So, basically, getting a degree at this college does not guarantee that government funded, accredited colleges will recognize your degree and accept you based on your accomplished studies there.
Pink Cross’ website further states that,
“Shelley has attended Pierce College in Tacoma Washington for her general academics, Wisdom For Life Leadership School in Tacoma Washington and Harvestime International Bible College where she received a Christian Workers Certificate in Biblical Studies in 2003. Shelley majors in Theology and minors in counseling and Creative Writing.”
“General academics” is not a degree. It looks like she took some courses, but it doesn’t state that she graduated or majored in anything there. She “attended” Wisdom For Life Leadership School in Tacoma Washington, “received a Christian Workers Certificate in Biblical Studies” at Harvestime International Bible College – which states that they “do not give college credit,” but refers to two that do, and one is Vision International University in California, which we have already discovered, is not an accredited college.
The site does state, again, that she “minors in counseling,” but no degree is sited other than what is attached to her Theology degree, and that does not qualify her to teach anything other than Christian-related studies, or counsel anyone on anything other than Christian-related studies, yet… she doesn’t just give financial support to ex-porn actresses (which looks like less than 2% of Pink Cross Foundation’s annual income in 2008 and less than 15% in 2009 by the tax returns), she states herself that she monitored at least one model’s “medicine cabinet”, in her address to congress June of this year, and she states repeatedly that she reaches out to porn stars, listens to their traumas, talks to them, and states that they are all drug addicts and victims of sexual abuse. Does she pay herself as a counselor, or does she provide professional counseling to the people who come to her? She responsed, “Yes!” to one of my questions in a post on www.MikeSouth.com that she does help people even if they don’t accept “God” as their savior, and she states in the same post that she gives, “free gifts,[and] thoroughly researched and up to date education,” to porn stars at the conventions, except that I’ve researched the statistics page on Pink Cross Foundation’s website, and it’s not thorough or even correct or complete in places, and again, she doesn’t have the certification to “educate” or “counsel” beyond Christian-related studies, unless she can produce a degree that states otherwise. Women with substance abuse problems and deep mental and emotional trauma need the kind of professional help that a purely Theology-certified person is not prepared to deal with because the issues are too sensitive. People submit years of their life to studying facts in order to properly and practically help people with their issues. You can’t base your foundation on “facts” and claim to know someone I cannot see or hear. “God” isn’t a fact, and Shelley Lubben does not apear to be qualified to help people beyond handing out financial help, educating about religion, and counseling people about religion. Now, on to the post that was sent to me, which I quote directly from her site and then comment about…
The post begins:
“Submitted by shelleylubben on Thu, 07/08/2010 – 07:15,”
First question: Who wrote this? It reads, “Submitted by shelleylubben,” but then it talks about Shelley Lubben in the third person… Or maybe this was taken from somewhere else and she’s, once again, not crediting the writer? No… it appears to be original. It appears that she submitted the article and talks about herself in the third person. Okay…
The article talks about the condom mandate and how the industry was in for “a rude awakening,” at the Cal/OSHA meeting. I don’t think everyone in the industry is necessarily against a condom mandate, they just don’t want a condom mandate to replace testing. The gay adult industry suffers from “bareback” movies and no testing. With testing in place, STD’s and HIV can be caught and dealt with in an expedient way. A condom mandate will not prevent people from catching STD’s and HIV when they’re not working, and condoms break and also come off during scenes. Also, according to the article, what Deborah Gold said was,
“Let me be clear: we’re not creating a new rule, we’re talking about modifying an existing rule.”
So where is the “rude awakening” in that? Unless she knows something I do not know, it just means that everything is still up in the air, but condoms are actually mandatory, and they may modify the law to drop mandatory condom use in certain or all scenarios. Is mandatory condom use really a bad thing? It won’t sell? Well, the mainstream industry does implement stunt men, and some some stunt men get hurt and even die. Is it right? No. Is it their choice as an adult to take the job because they really want to be a stunt person? Yes. Has Shelley proven that child pornography and sex slavery run rampant in the adult filmmaking industry? No. Has she helped people get out that need to get out? I hope so. Is she brainwashing them anew? If you can be brainwashed into getting into the sex industry, you can be brainwashed by and about anything, but the real question is if Shelley Lubben is qualified as an expert and a role model to be helping anyone beyond financial aid and Christian-related education and counseling. We’ve already gone through her very suspect tax returns courtesy of Business Management Services, a.k.a. “King of Taxes”, now we’ll walk through the possible threat she poses to people in need.
So far, based on researching her statistics page on www.ThePinkCross.org, she quotes Sharon Mitchell from an undated article, doesn’t give specifics about the difference between the people who have HSV-1 (cold sores, fever blisters), HSV-2 (genital herpes), HHV3 (chicken pox), HHV4 (Epstein-Barr virus, “mono”), HHV5 (“mono” and hepatitis), etc… (which according to www.Herpes.com, roughly 65% of all Americans have the HSV-1 and HSV-2 virus, and says nothing about people who have the other viruses), compared to the 66% of adult performers Sharon quotes as having it), refers back to herself as a resource on other statistics… which is suspect because you have to get your statistics from a renowned source of real scientific examination (unless she is now ordaining herself a scientific researcher and, if so, she can produce a certificate for that, too), links to a page that misinforms a well-known writer as someone from the adult industry with HIV and then further links to pages that are just news articles about the booming sex industry with no information about the actual harms of porn.
Shelley Lubben, in her address to congress in June of this year, accuses doctors and pornographers of being drug traffickers. She doesn’t specify who, it’s just an accusation that she knows they exist, which is heresy if she doesn’t disclose who they are. She also talks about going through a particular ex-performers medicine cabinet checking for prescription drugs. Interesting… because I have not seen a medical degree produced to show that she is qualified to moderate another person’s drug intake. In the following article she plagiarizes from AVN without an editorial credit about Ami Jordan’s death:
“Type 9 Models owner Kevin Kline, the agent who represented Ami throughout her time in the industry, says in AVN interview: “She had a problem with pills, and she asked me to help monitor that usage of pills and what she was taking.”
And then she comments,
“Agents and pornographers acting as doctors? Isn’t that illegal?”
But wouldn’t that statement also apply to her? And the agent didn’t say he actually moderated Ami Jordan’s prescription drug usage, but Shelley does admit to doing it for a model, even though she does not offer up documents proving that she is a doctor and qualified to oversee and moderate someone else’s drug intake! Nothing seems to match up in this woman’s information. Nothing points to her as qualified to do anything but educate and counsel about Christianity. She claims she contracted herpes from the adult film industry, yet in her five part series she admits to being a prostitute and having unprotected sex with clients during and before she was an adult actress. But then in her story on her website, she states that,
“God also healed me of the non-curable disease Herpes (HSV 1-2). I was part of a special military study for pregnant women with herpes at Madigan Army Medical Center in 1996 and when I was tested they said I couldn’t be in the study because there was no Herpes virus in my blood. Even though I had become infected with Genital Herpes in the porn industry in 1994, the test came back negative! I also am cancer free as the doctors were able to remove all the cervical cancer.”
If it’s non-curable, how can you be cured? Is that a scientific statement? Can she produce documents to prove that she did, in fact, have herpes, and documents to prove that she now, in fact, doe not have herpes? If she can produce a medical degree stating psychiatrist credentials that proves that she is qualified to oversee and moderate someone else’s prescription drug use, or even just a degree siting psychologist or lesser counselor credentials to prove she is qualified to counsel in the secular counseling profession, I might reconsider all of my reporting on Shelley Lubben and Pink Cross Foundation as an uncredited and unqualified resource for help within the adult community.
And, again, of her ability to educate.
She states two years worth of experience in the adult movie making industry. In the blog post sent to me she posts a very cute picture of Nina Hartley, obviously engaged in an animated conversation with someone, completely unaware that someone is taking her picture, or a series of pictures (it’s meant to make Nina look silly, quite frankly), and next to the picture states,
“Veteran adult film actress Nina Hartley who admitted she caught Gonorrhea 4 times during her career stated, “I don’t feel any safer with condoms.””
A two-year “porn star” versus a thirty-plus-year “veteran” who caught gonorrhea roughly… once every 7.5 years? I will take the word of the lucid and educated veteran over that of an early ’90s, two-year “porn star” who admits to contributing to the American herpes epidemic, infecting a couple with herpes and not caring, then being cured by “God”, being a drug addict and an alcoholic, and even now,
“under strict medical care because of an ulcer and other physical illnesses due to the stress,”
and not once taking responsibility for her actions and instead blaming it on “the devil”. Nina is a veteran and a published author and actually looks like a healthy, professional businesswoman and not a call girl with cotton mouth when she shows up to speak and present herself. And that is my opinion of what Shelley Lubben looks like in her June 2010 address to congress. Somebody give the woman some water! And then, in the article, Shelley posts a picture of herself that is Photoshopped and she looks Satanic.
She states that,
“Pink Cross executive director and former porn actress, Shelley Lubben, proposed forming an alliance between Cal/OSHA and Pink Cross Foundation in order to educate performers on STDs and other health related issues, as well as the rights of performers – both of which the foundation already does – and to assist in enforcing OSHA’s already existing laws concerning safety in the workplace.”
If, as a non-profit organization, you are only allowed to spend more than 20% of your time and money lobbying, how can you “join forces” with a federal agency and help them “enforce already existing laws” unless you are spending more than 20% of your time and money lobbying? Cal/OSHA is not a non-profit organization. Their job is clearly set out for them. And how can a woman with no degrees beyond Christian-related studies “educate” anyone when her existing “facts” are not facts?
And how can someone under “strict medical care”, care for someone else? How can someone who claims that all sex workers are “slaves of Satan,” embody the balanced and measured intelligence and sensitivity to talk to anyone about anything other than religion? She also links to her video about dead porn stars and how porn killed them, but these people can’t, in fact, speak for themselves and tell us how many killed themselves because people who push religion and shame and judgment made them feel so bad about themselves that they couldn’t go on living. I don’t see the mental stability in using dead people who can’t defend themselves as a resource for “facts”. Let’s face actual facts here, without the right credentials, Shelley Lubben is not qualified to do much of anything beyond handing over money to actual victims so they can pay their bills, look for new work and seek professional help for their addictions and traumas, and at this point, even that is debatable. A theology degree from an unaccredited college does not give one the right to educate on sex matters. A Bachelor’s in Theology and Counseling is not a free pass to educate people on sex and/or emotional and mental disorders. Where are the credentials? It looks like Shelley Lubben has NO CREDIBILITY. And the only defense being offered me is by racist plagiarists who troll this site and my YouTube Channel merely looking for attention, who can’t answer any of our questions logically. Apparently, no one can.
